Happydad,
I've never heard of Dame Edith? Who is she?
CF.
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They are Sooooooooo Over-rated !!
by ScoobySnax inever listened to someone who goes on and on about someone or something (and i don't mean jehovah's witnesses here!
) like they were the best thing since sliced bread.....and try as you might you just can't see the attraction?.
my brother-in law must have every sodding elvis record/picture/memorabilia thing going, and he goes on and on about him.
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We're Studying The Daniel Book........ Again!!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
by Doubtfully Yours inthey'll be lucky to see me at all at the farguing book study meeting!!!
damn it, if they don't have anything new to study, why not move some of the other meetings' material to this hour thus making shorter those other meetings???!!!
of course not, for this move would be too simple yet smart and full of common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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I was bored so I just dug out my copy of this veritable spiritual feast of a book. Page 303 explains Daniel's 1335 days (my comments are in red / ridiculous Watchtower comments in bold)
Happiness For the Holy Ones: "Happy in the one who is keeping in expectation and who arrives at the 1335 days." (Daniel 12:12). The angel gives no clues as to when this period begins or ends. But the Watchtower will explain anyway. History suggests (that's Watchtower history) that it simply follows on the heels of the preceding period. In that case it would run from the autumn of 1922 to the late spring of 1926. Did the holy ones come to a state of happiness by the end of that period. Yes, in important spiritual ways.
Even after the convention in 1922 (picture shown on page 302) (and you've never seen a bunch of more miserable, po-faced people), some of God's holy ones were still looking longingly into the past. The basic study material for their meetings was still the Bible (see - these poor people had to study the bible of all things at meetings) and the volumes of Studies in the Scriptures, by C.T.Russell. At that time there was a widely held view that pointed to 1925 as the year for the resurrection to begin and for Paradise to be restored to the earth. Thus many were serving with a fixed date in mind. Some proudly refused to share in the work of preaching to the public. This was not a happy state of affairs.
You can blame this 'widely held view' on Judge Rutherford who predicted 1925 in his work of complete nonsense "Millions Now Living Will Never Die". There's a term for this and it's called 'false prophecy'!
As the 1335 days progressed, however, all of this began to change. Preaching came to the fore, as regular arrangements for everyone to participate in the field ministry were established. Meetings were scheduled to study the Watchtower each week. (Now that's better. Forget the bible and study the Watchtower instead) The issue of March 1, 1925 carried the historic article "Birth of a Nation", giving God's people a full understanding of what happened in the 1914-1919 period. (Maybe someone on the forum knows if this is still the same understanding as today, or if it is 'old light') After 1925 passed, the holy ones no longer served God with an immediate, explicit deadline in view.(Well not until 1975 at least!) ...At the convention in May 1926, the book 'Deliverance' was released. This was one of a series of books designed to replace 'Studies in the Scriptures'. No longer were the holy ones looking to the past. They were looking confidently to the future and the work ahead.(After the failed 1925 fiasco I'm sure they were anything but confident) As prophesied, the 1335 days therefore ended with the holy ones in a happy state.
Think about that last statement for a moment. What it in affect says is that bible prophesy was fulfilled because Judge Rutherford's prophecy failed. They were 'happy' that the Judge had screwed up and so fulfilled Daniel 12:12. So Rutherford's insane ramblings must actually have been part of god's great plan!
With all these prophetic marks to identify "the holy ones of the Supreme One", what excuse can there be for failure to recognise them and associate with them?
God's great plan of course was to create an organisation of false prophets. Now hands up, name just one excuse for not recognising them?
CF.
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I don't understand this
by embeth2525 inhi, iv'e never been able to understand the reasoning behind why god did this, genesis 11:1-8 why would god be threatened by people wanting to build a city.
perhaps someone can answer this for me.
beth
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City Fan
Leolaia,
Yet another excellent post!
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Was anyone actually ever banned from playing chess?
by Jodo inawake!
1973 march 22 pp.13-14 chess-what kind of game is it?
the spirit of competition in chess may be stirred to fever pitch, which is reflected in chess players' attitudes and language.
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City Fan
I've never even heard of chess being frowned upon.
I was captain of our school chess team, and even missed a Thursday night meeting once to play in a championship. Maybe my parents were just not the strict kind. My proudest achievement was holding Grand Master Nigel Short to a draw over 30 moves. (A couple of years later Nigel Short narrowly lost the World Chess Championship to Gary Kasparov)
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I took the "1914 Generation" prophecy seriously. Did you?
by nicolaou ini was born in 1964, a convenient 50 years after 1914. even in my early teens i was doing the sums.
i had a worse case scenario figured out - if the 1914 generation could apply to babies and even if they lived to be a 120, i would still only be about 70 years old after they'd all died!
i figured that i was part of the first wave of 'jehovah's people' that really would live to see the new order - guaranteed!!
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City Fan
that date is by no means certain at 587 b.c. as scholars alledge
You're right, it could also be 586 BC. But it is one of those years.
537 b.c. for the fall of Babylon to the Persians and the liberation of the Jews is far more certain and accepted by scholars
That was 539 BC. It is much easier to work out this date by counting forward from 587 as there is far more evidence for 587 than for 539. I think with Daniel saying the seventy years were up then he thought they must have begun around 609/608. He also states that the desolations are still continuing after the end of this 70 years so rejects the chronicler's interpretation of the seventy years. Basically god then tells him "Seventy years? Did I say seventy years? What I really meant to say was seventy weeks of years!"
Anyway, sorry to go off topic!
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What do you make of this picture?
by heart2heart inmum took this picture in the summer (she loves to photograph flowers, mushrooms and insects) and this one really shocked us - look at the head of the moth!
to us it looks like a little human head!
very strange.
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City Fan
Snowcrash,
I'll have to check, but I think the 1958 version must have been in colour because that photo is definitely from the 1958 version.
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What do you make of this picture?
by heart2heart inmum took this picture in the summer (she loves to photograph flowers, mushrooms and insects) and this one really shocked us - look at the head of the moth!
to us it looks like a little human head!
very strange.
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City Fan
Here you go:
The film isn't exactly a classic!
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What do you make of this picture?
by heart2heart inmum took this picture in the summer (she loves to photograph flowers, mushrooms and insects) and this one really shocked us - look at the head of the moth!
to us it looks like a little human head!
very strange.
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City Fan
heart2heart,
In the original black and white version of 'The Fly', the scientist ends up with the head of the fly, while the fly ends up with the head of the scientist.
Vincent Price, a famous horror actor (or maybe not) and some others spend quite a while with nets trying to catch the fly (so they can save the scientist!). At the end of the film they find the fly in a spider's web, and the fly has a head just like the one in your photograph.
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What do you make of this picture?
by heart2heart inmum took this picture in the summer (she loves to photograph flowers, mushrooms and insects) and this one really shocked us - look at the head of the moth!
to us it looks like a little human head!
very strange.
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City Fan
You didn't happen to see Vincent Price walking nearby with a large net did you??
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I took the "1914 Generation" prophecy seriously. Did you?
by nicolaou ini was born in 1964, a convenient 50 years after 1914. even in my early teens i was doing the sums.
i had a worse case scenario figured out - if the 1914 generation could apply to babies and even if they lived to be a 120, i would still only be about 70 years old after they'd all died!
i figured that i was part of the first wave of 'jehovah's people' that really would live to see the new order - guaranteed!!
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Nicolaou,
I was going through some old boxes in my attic a few months ago and discovered some old song lyrics I'd written when I formed a rock band at school around 1986 (obviously kept secret from my parents). Apart from the lyrics being truly awful (as the songs were from what I remember) I was amused to find a plan of action for world domination for the band.
I had set the date 1993 as the year to call it a day. I think I set this date because the year after was 1994 and I must have thought the big A would come that year! (80 years from 1914!)
Talk about cognitive dissonance! Although forming a rock band at school had opened myself up to new ideas, friends and possibilities, I was still indoctrinated enough in the JW religion to believe I only had until 1994 to become the biggest rock band in the world.
1995 came and went. The big A failed to happen, and thankfully I'd failed in my musical quest. (I'd hate to have inflicted my guitar playing on the rest of the world!)
CF.
